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Nitori. Fisheye lens perspective. Cucumber wrench.
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http://arcanaheartnana.blogspot.com/200 ... on_14.html

The keychain he talks about in the first paragraph does sound pretty damn cool, hehe.

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This one was a collab between Comic-Z and me. I requested he do the sketch, and then I colored it. Vanessa from KoF and Adell from Disgaea 2, heh
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I drew Eve from Daemon Bride (minus the chain belt and long sideburns).
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He knows kung fu.
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That flame is dope! Especially the top part, but especially the middle part, but especially the whole thing as a whole, but especially the bottom part.
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lol thanks. I can't take full credit for it though. Pootnannies over at SRK posted the plain lineart seen here in my srk collab thread and I painted over it for him. My first collaboration on srk.
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So um, i like taking pictures of the sky with my cell phone. I'm not very good at it but i do enjoy it.
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^ Subscrubed. :)

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Happy candy-day from Nevada-tan.
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Xenozip. wrote:^ Subscrubed. :)
Okay i don't really know what that means but thanks dude! I'll probably update every day for a while cuz i've got a lot of old stuff to get through but it should calm down eventually. I won't mind if you get annoyed and unsubscribe, mostly because i won't notice because i don't know how to check.
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Holy shit, that is disturbing. Jeez god damn. How the hell did she become a celebrity?
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I subscribed to the rss feed http://redcloudsbluesky.com/?feed=rss2 I use google reader for everything (blogs, manga, etc) http://www.google.com/reader So I'll see whenever you update.

I don't think she's really a celebrity per-se. But she did get some internet infamy because her motive was "being teased on the internet", and the brutality, and also because of the nickname that spawned on 2ch (because JP police/media don't reveal the names of minors, but they showed a picture of her an she had a Nevada hoodie on, hence the nickname). So it's kind of like the Columbine kids, they aren't exactly celebrities but everyone knows about them and what happened and their motive for doing it even though that was like a decade ago.

I mean, it's Halloween, so it's kind of like drawing "fan art" of Jack the Ripper with a pumpkin. It's not like you're actually a fan but he fits the bill for Halloween-theme. Though to be fair there's at least a few movies about Jack.
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Yeah, maybe it's the fact that it was so recent that makes me uncomfortable. I mean anytime "internet" and "hoodie" are involved, i can relate to the circumstances whereas Jack the Ripper took place long enough ago that i can't imagine the setting without thinking of it as a movie, somehow fictional.

Anyway nice drawing. I dig the background a lot and the pumpkin came out great.
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Thanks.

Hmm I guess five years is more recent than ten years, but it doesn't really "feel" recent to me since I heard about it when it happened five years ago. It's probably more shocking if it's your first time hearing about it. There was also the Virginia Tech massacre that happened very recently. So columbine 10 years, nevadatan 5 years, VT 2 years, which of them makes you the most uncomfortable?

See, it could just be because it's a girl. While "the art scene" will always perpetually warp EVERY person/character in existence to cute/sexy as per rule 34 that can get kind of creepy when the person/character happens to be a cold blooded psycho killer.

Anyway, while I do admit to being weird, I'm not the first or the last to draw Halloween "fan art" of her.
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Being a girl is definitely a factor, but so is the weapon and so is her motive. Even without the internet being involved, it's crazy that such a young kid could react that way over such a minor slight.

I don't know which of those makes me more uncomfortable because they all do. Though if you heard about it five years ago then i can see why the shock/impact has faded. Most of all i'm just not comfortable with her being given fame or sex appeal. I know it's not surprising, but then again the mass consciousness of the internet is schitzophrenic as fuck. I think it's naive to believe that these concessions don't cause damage. We grow accustomed to the things we're surrounded by and the frequency of disturbing thoughts the internet tends to present is disproportionate to say the least.

I'm not criticizing you or anything. Just um... be careful with what you allow inside your head. Getting it out can take A LOT of work.
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Nah the internet sexualizes "everything", literally, so it's not even schizophrenic but really 1-track-minded. And actually there was a reeeeaaaallllly huge debate regarding this subject and similar subjects that blew up very recently, but of all people _Penn_ laid out a nice little logic bomb that I agree with.

I mean, we play fighting games, which are "violent" by nature. I also play first person shooters. Sometimes I listen to somewhat violent music. I love action films that tend to have a lot of graphic violence. And I'm not a violent person at all, nor do I actually find the violent aspects of these things particularly "appealing", just entertaining. That's just who I am, I would never hurt anyone on purpose, probably not even in self defense. That doesn't mean that strange or violent things can't amuse me though.

That's what pissed me off about the Columbine thing so much. It's because the kids said the video games and music influenced them and then the media ate that the hell up. The media needed a reason better than "being teased" for why kids could do such a horrible act because parents didn't "get it". They wanted to know "how could they do such a thing? why?". But rather than the media telling the truth and saying that these kids were disturbed individuals regardless of their influences and that these kids were "harassed" not "teased" in a manner that would be unacceptable in a working environment (to the point we'd go to court over it) they pointed the finger at games and music.

THAT is far more sick and twisted than anything I can even think of. Saying that murderers aren't to blame, but people who make video games and music are? So the music and games are criminals despite never hurting anyone and the ones who actually murdered people aren't really bad people at heart they just "got influenced by those evil games and music!", ffffffffuuuck no.

Video games, music, and art do not define who I am. Nor does any of the art that I make. Really disturbed individuals tend to flock to violent materials but non-violent people can enjoy them as well. If some one goes out and slashes up somebody and said my artwork influenced them, I call bullshit. I do not want to be criminalized or censored because some wackjob psycho out there didn't know the difference between right and wrong -- I'm not to blame for some one else having a feeble and violent mind, because I DO know the difference.

Anyway the point is, what goes into my head doesn't "influence" me -- rather, if I find something that I take a liking to then I was already predisposed to liking it, but it doesn't make me a different person. And even if I like something weird or violent that doesn't mean I act out on it, much in the same way I've always liked fighting games and shooters and yet would never actually hurt anyone. What is on paper and what is on real life are entirely different worlds. A lot of the things I find erotic on paper would definitely repulse me in real life. But I know the difference.

It reminds me of when some kids saw a Bevis and Butthead episode and did something really stupid with firecrackers, and another kid with an electric fence, and yet another kid died in a sand box playing "Naruto". Sorry but these cartoons are not to blame, I hate to throw it in the parent's faces but the ones to blame are the kids for being stupid and the parents for bad parenting. Yeah it's tragic and nothing to joke about but I'm not gunna lie just because it's tragic, those kids were goddamn stupid and the cartoons didn't make them that way.

I actually made a post about this a while back. But like this post, it's kind of long.
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Xenozip. wrote:I mean, we play fighting games, which are "violent" by nature. I also play first person shooters. Sometimes I listen to somewhat violent music. I love action films that tend to have a lot of graphic violence. And I'm not a violent person at all, nor do I actually find the violent aspects of these things particularly "appealing", just entertaining.
The main difference is that these things are intended as forms of entertainment and filtered through endless focus tests by giant corporations with the goal of making a harmless, profitable, socially acceptable product. They have monetary incentives to cover their tracks.

On the other hand, the goal of the internet - especially the parts that know what "rule 34" means - is to fuck with you.
Anyway the point is, what goes into my head doesn't "influence" me
Really?

You're not talking to fox news here. I've been playing fighting games as long as you have. I don't have a problem with God of War or Mortal Kombat. But it's not a question of principle, it's a matter of degree. Just because the line isn't drawn between the middle of Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat doesn't mean that line doesn't exist somewhere. The sad thing is that mainstream media is so focused on pinning the blame on GTA4 that they're completely blind to the things that actually can twist a person's thoughts. And by the time they figure it out, they''ll have wasted all the biggest hyperbolic adjectives on GTA clones so nobody will be alarmed.
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Just to clear the air, please don't think i was criticizing you for drawing her. I can't imagine it causing anyone to become a criminal. My concern isn't so much about actions as it is about thoughts. This isn't an issue of ethics or morals; it's a personal issue for the observer.

My only advice is don't let cuiosity be your only guide. I just think that in "rule 34" circles, you're better off not clicking on (more than) a few thumbnails, and you can probably predict which ones they're gonna be. Like, some of that stuff, you absolutely don't need knocking around in your head and rooting it out later isn't easy.
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Sorry, can't relate. The motive for drawing her, or knowing about these incidents, or drawing her as her projected actual age and healthy/well endowed, wasn't curiosity.

There is no rule 34 circle for me. And I know about her not because I was in one of those kinds of circles, I heard about it when it happened because I was in an IRC channel that happened to relate major news, and that was pretty major news at the time.

The motive for drawing it was because she is a sick twisted scary person like jack the ripper or buffalo bill. But I'm not a sick twisted person and this is halloween, so while some people draw skeletons and zombies and stuff that's also related to death in a "cute" way, I also draw something related to death in a "cute" way.

Like I said before, I will admit to being a little weird. But, none of this really has anything to do with rule 34 or what gets bumped around in my head by the internet. Sick, twisted, deranged, bad things on the internet can gross me out but they don't scar me or change me. And my second point being that if I muse over them through art then the viewers need to be responsible for themselves, because I am not.
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Fair enough, suit yourself. It's your quarter after all. You're certainly free to take your Hardcore Paladin on as many Hell Cow runs as you like. All i can say is good luck man.

Btw i hijacked that old footsies discussion we had and turned it into a new article which didn't turn out so great because i was in a hurry to finish that challenge vid yesterday and in a hurry to get back to El Fuerte combos today. But i'm sure i'll end up writing 20 footsies articles before this is overwith.
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Well, it is footsies after all. Can't really summarize a topic like that in a brief little confucius-style anecdote.

Well, you could, and it would be totally awesome, but also entirely esoteric.
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Haha yeah it would be awesome. Maybe that's what the 20th article should be, after i've spent 19 explaining details and patterns and concrete examples. Cuz a while ago i realized that the best footsies players have a lot of it down to flowcharts, and they've created/memorized lots of go-to setups that they can build from as well as resort to. Kind of like how in chess there are books written about opening moves, but only a few players have read them and even fewer have bothered internalizing them. So i want to write a few articles about that, maybe covering three basic components at a time. It'll be immediately practical stuff and it'll be something people can practice right off the bat.
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So what would be better. A one liner anecdote, a haiku, or a limerick?
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There once was a man from Peru
And those who could beat him were few
If you whiffed one attack
You'd be flat on your back
But if you sat back and blocked, he just threw
"Man, you being proud of me got in the way, bitch!"
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^ I love you.

I needed more posts like that in my old Limerick thread, lol.
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This is the most amazing thing that's ever happened on this forum.
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Had To wrote:Maj: we were talking about footsies for some reason
Maj: and SlimX wrote this:
Maj: There once was a man from Peru
And those who could beat him were few
If you whiffed one attack
You'd be flat on your back
But if you sat back and blocked, he just threw
CaliPower: sounds like a poem
Maj: i think it's a limerick
Maj: though i don't know the difference between a limerick and a poem
Maj: most brilliant thing i've read all year though
CaliPower: lmao
CaliPower: i like it
CaliPower: he wrote it?
CaliPower: haha
Maj: yeah
CaliPower: tell him that was awesome
CaliPower: if hes reffering to me
CaliPower: lol
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Internet! wrote:Maj: sup sir
omni: There once was a man from Peru
And those who could beat him were few
If you whiffed one attack
You'd be flat on your back
But if you sat back and blocked, he just threw
Maj: SlimX is #1
Maj: all others are #2 or lower
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Maj: http://combovid.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7054#p7054
omni: ahhh
omni: choi just sent it to me
omni: had no idea where it came from
Maj: wow, i copied that to valle at 2:27
Maj: it's 2:41 now
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Hahah WTF
"Man, you being proud of me got in the way, bitch!"
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Maj wrote:
Had To wrote: Maj: i think it's a limerick
Maj: though i don't know the difference between a limerick and a poem
:(

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=130478

Everyone should know what a limerick is. Because they are awesome.
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I've been doing collaborations with SRK peeps
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=212010
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Xenozip. wrote:http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=130478

Everyone should know what a limerick is. Because they are awesome.
Hahaha and now i do. Though that doesn't bring me any closer to being able to writing one. Helluva rules.
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