Doopliss wrote:Are you counting the last dive kick as a stomp? >.<
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Hmm, on balrog Legs in corner i managed to do neutral jump stomps where the dive kick at the end whiffed. I doubt it'll lead to an EX Tanden... But it's worth noting, just in case it is doable.
Yun can combo after a trade with his sweep. Maybe it's also possible with Ibuki?
I just tried to find it and can't but I'm fairly certain that during his month one combos Maj couldn't find anyway combo after the sweep in Ibuki's target combos.
It's different now. This is a new game with new balance, don't be do quick to judge I can already confirm that EX Kazegiri and EX Raida works. But I don't think her c.Hk works the same way as Yuns, since the 2nd hit causes reset, requiring the opponent to be airborne. But I could be wrong I guess.
Maybe Doopliss isn't kicking ass, but he's taking names.
Funny... a long time ago i was playing SF i dizzied someone with the first hit of the sweep, the following hit immediately knocked them out of stun... i should have looked in to that.
jamheald wrote:I just tried to find it and can't but I'm fairly certain that during his month one combos Maj couldn't find anyway combo after the sweep in Ibuki's target combos.
Hm, i don't remember spending much time (if any) testing her sweep, but that was a long time ago. Props to tsivillain and antiheroforhire for finding it. It's one of those things that makes you ask, "Why didn't i try this the first time i picked Ibuki/Yun?" but the ingenuity of mashing can't be denied.
Gotta say though, labeling this is a "glitch" purely for the sake of u2b views is kinda weak. Are we gonna start calling Viper EX Knuckle trades glitches too?
Maj wrote:Gotta say though, labeling this is a "glitch" purely for the sake of u2b views is kinda weak. Are we gonna start calling Viper EX Knuckle trades glitches too?
I'd definitely call it a glitch, anything that allows you to connect any grounded move including thorws on what looks like a falling animation is clearly not intended to happen. The fact that it seems so random (not working with a rose trade) also makes me label it a glitch.
Maybe Doopliss isn't kicking ass, but he's taking names.
Maj wrote:I see it as a simple move property, which is the natural consequence of an intended feature. It's not like Blanka's sweep randomly allows OTGs too.
Yuns one is clearly a glitch, you're not meant to be able to throw an enemy when he's been hard knocked down. & considering it only works with trades & not say, rose throw. Makes it as much as a glitch as say, Fei's Throwable hit stun in SSFIV days.
Ibuki's, or the rose trade is just mechanics though.
Dudley's rose isn't exactly the most reliable experiment control. That move's design implementation is clearly held together with duct tape. Has anyone tried trading with a regular projectile?
It doesn't work with rose trade because it's not a trade.Yun hits him with the sweep, and the rose hits after and hits him in the recovery frames.In that state, the opponent is considered in juggle state, and you need a move with JP1 or more to hit.
Some mechanic is tricked when you actually trade with another move move, that makes you able to even throw after.
tested with ibuki without the rose, she always puts them in the air
Maj wrote:Dudley's rose isn't exactly the most reliable experiment control. That move's design implementation is clearly held together with duct tape. Has anyone tried trading with a regular projectile?
idk the window is pretty small, it's strange they made the move so much different then ibuki's
Snoooootch, here s the setup i was talking about to combo after Ken's U2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOurVeqI45w
My favourite follow up for it is meaty st.mp ~ sweep
Dark_Chaotix wrote:Lol. I even noticed this and I dont even play the game. What set if off for me was the elbow, tackle and sweep.
Hah, same here. Never played SF4 but watching match vids made this really apparent. I've been hit by too many pro Urien combos in 3S not to notice that. XD
i barely know who Urien was, but someone made a video a long time ago of 3S to SFIV similarities. I'm guessing he's one of the better 3S characters. that mirror thing he does looks like the ultimate wakeup game.
I can already confirm that EX Kazegiri and EX Raida works. But I don't think her c.Hk works the same way as Yuns, since the 2nd hit causes reset, requiring the opponent to be airborne. But I could be wrong I guess.