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Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:08 am
by Toxy
Hey guys, im making Breaking the Universe 2 but i have no one to edit or capture my combos for me this time, and i dont really know anything about good settings to capture, everytime i do it the videos turn out either really big file size or really shitty quality, im using camtasia 3, if anyone could tell me the settings to make my video decent quality + size that would be cool, thanks.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:15 pm
by Maj
Actually i asked NKI almost the same question about a week ago. A long time ago, he mentioned capturing ST combos from emulator for his Evolution 2006 Special and it looked sharp. Here's what he said:
NKI wrote:I use HyperCam 2 to record from Kawaks. My computer isn't that buff, so I have to go to the Display properties in Windows and turn colors to 16-bit and change Hardware Acceleration to the lowest possible setting (without turning it off). I suppose if you're computer is super buff that wouldn't be necessary, but I dunno.
My computer definately doesn't qualify as super buff. So i got HyperCam 2, turned off all other unimportant programs, reduced my colors to 16-bit and even reduced the screen resolution to a lower setting. Then i reduced Hardware Accelleration to the second-lowest setting. In case you don't know how to find the Hardware Acelleration slider, open the Display Properties window, click on the Settings tab, click on Advanced, then click on the Troubleshoot tab.

Then i turned on Kawaks, turned on HyperCam 2, and tried a whole bunch of different settings so to find the one that gave me the best quality. The best method turned out to be capturing uncompressed video (listed as Full Frames (Uncompressed)). The weird thing is that whenever i try to capture, it says that my computer isn't buff enough to get away with that. Then i try again, and it always works on the second try. Anyway, once it's done capturing, it tells you how many frames were skipped, so i do this a few times until i get lucky and that number is low. Sometimes i get 0 skipped frames, but if i'm capturing like 300 frames then i'm happy with under 5 skipped frames. Once i have the uncompressed AVI, you can convert it into a smaller file using TMPGEnc or whatever codec you want.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:47 pm
by Toxy
I've allways been using camtasia and getting horrible results, all laggy, even in a small window.
Just got hypercam now and it works fine, even with a big screen it doesn't lag but it still doesn't look as good as i expect it to, im thinking maybe i got the wrong frames setting or something.

This is how the 4 options look right now, if anyone can help me with them it would be great.

Rate in Frames per second, Record [ 10 ] Playback [ 10 ]
Cursor/Full Frame capture ratio [ 1 ] (1 capture every frame)
Key frame every [ 100 ] Frames

Making combos is fun, too bad editing is a pain in the ass.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:14 pm
by desk
I think you should bump up the frames per second. I have mine on 30 and it seems to work fine. Actually I'm not sure how that effects the second option, as i always capture full frames uncompressed.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:34 pm
by Maj
My settings are at 30 fps too, both on record and playback. Though i'm not sure what the hell playback fps is supposed to mean. Once you raise the capture fps, it's going to take more processing power and you might run into a little trouble. Just make sure you try everything (more than once) and maybe you'll figure something out. My computer is pretty old too, but i tried a bunch of different settings until something worked. Good luck.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:15 am
by Blazt The Speakerz
CSVagrant and I have been using Snagit for some time now. It's a great tool, however we end up losing frames when recording our kawaks replay files. I'm wondering if there are any loss of frames when recording using hypercam?

-BTS

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:04 am
by Keiko
Blazt The Speakerz wrote:CSVagrant and I have been using Snagit for some time now. It's a great tool, however we end up losing frames when recording our kawaks replay files. I'm wondering if there are any loss of frames when recording using hypercam?

-BTS
I use Hoekey to capture Kawaks replays in 60fps, highly recommended.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:30 am
by Blazt The Speakerz
Hoekey comes up as a program for hotkeys?

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:48 pm
by Keiko
Blazt The Speakerz wrote:Hoekey comes up as a program for hotkeys?
Being honest, never really understand what it's the real purpose of the program besides replay captures. If u wanna know something about it (how to use it, etc etc) i can make some quick tutorial for you, it's a really good tool believe me.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:10 pm
by Doopliss
There must be some way for me to disable my capture card when I'm not using it. Since I installed it I've been unable to use fraps, since my computer can't handle it anymore. Before I installed it fraps would only yield minor lag spikes once in a while, now I get massive slowdown/frameskips, as you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GPdV2NVwuQ

Does anyone know? I have a Hauppage HD PVR Colossus.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:47 pm
by error1
you should be able to disable it in device manager

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:38 pm
by Doopliss
Tested it now, didn't work. The issue might be that some WinTV subprogram or something (WinTV is my core recording program.)is running contantly, I can see it booting up every time I start the computer, any way to disable this (I know you can change which programs are started when the computer is booted up, but not where), and can I do this without screwing up my recording completely? The process that is running is called "WinTVTray.exe".

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:55 pm
by CPS2
Which operating system are you using?

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:00 pm
by Doopliss
CPS2 wrote:Which operating system are you using?
Windows 7 64-bit. I never had any problems before installing the card though.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:41 pm
by error1
run msconfig, type it in in the start text box.
Mostly the bottleneck for fraps is the hard drive

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:32 am
by Doopliss
error1 wrote:run msconfig, type it in in the start text box.
Mostly the bottleneck for fraps is the hard drive
Thanks. Didn't help though, maybe it got a LITTLE better, but still bad. I can't remember the last time I actually managed to solve a computer-related issue *sigh*

But the weird thing is it worked just fine before. And back then I'd sometimes have a lot more files on my hard drive since fraps files tend to be 1-2 GB each and I usually have like 50 combos in my largest vids. I'm planning to buy new hard drives and a new graphics card though, but it's expensive, and I'm fidning it hard to justify with this being the only reason.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:51 am
by error1
yeah it's a really complex issue. Partially beacuse the hard drive changes speed depending on where the sector it's reading is physically located, and larger hard drives are more effected by it.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:26 pm
by onReload
make sure you have enough RAM as well. it's not super expensive, i'm buying myself some more soon

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:51 am
by Doopliss
onReload wrote:make sure you have enough RAM as well. it's not super expensive, i'm buying myself some more soon
I have 2x2 GB RAM or something like that iirc, the graphics card and hard drive are my main bottlenecks. My processor is also on the weaker side, but it's hard to find processors that fit my motherboard apparently.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:40 am
by Dark_Chaotix
So i want to record something off steam, what is the best for this?

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:19 am
by Doopliss
Dark_Chaotix wrote:So i want to record something off steam, what is the best for this?
If the software and your computer allows it (Pretty big "if" tbh, but if it's on steam the software is hopefully supported. Other than that I'm pretty sure you need a NVidia graphics card and it requires you to play in fullscreen when recording.), ShadowPlay worked wonders for me when recording USFIV since it gives you nice and small files and the graphics card takes up some/most/all of the extra processing. For other things I use Fraps, although it's pretty demanding and the files are huge since they're (to my understanding) source quality uncompressed avi files.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:53 pm
by onReload
I use dxtory. Offers more options than Fraps

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:10 am
by Dark_Chaotix
Any link at all?

Is it user friendly (pc resource wise)? 30 or 60fps rec?

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:00 am
by onReload
It's tweakable so you can make it easy on your PC. As far as user-friendly, eh, you should look up a good tutorial on how to use it.

http://exkode.com/dxtory-downloads-en.html

I don't remember which video I found, but "dxtory tutorial" on youtube gives me a bunch of results; some with 6 figures of views with not a lot of thumbs down. I'd just listen to them but scale it down to meet your needs. Remember that 60fps is more intensive, will eat more space...but depending on what you're capturing, you might not need the highest resolution with the highest framerate.

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:36 am
by Dark_Chaotix
Thanks, ill check it out

Re: Capturing combos from computer

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:04 pm
by error1
I've been using nvidia shadow play recently, but you need a nvidia video card