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Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:00 am
by error1
eryu, charge up,
cl.mp, mk stomp
oni
dash, c.mp
Sagat vs sagat ( or probably some other tall character )
c.lp, f+hk
Rufas, vs crouching oni
mp, hk divekick
I think dj probably has one with his sonic boom but haven't had a chance to find it
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:04 pm
by anotak
thanks, we'll get onto fixing that. you're already on the credits so it works out
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:31 pm
by anotak
error1 wrote:eryu, charge up,
cl.mp, mk stomp
what dummy are you doing this on that you are in range to get the close version of mp after the stomp?
edit: just found it on seth. hmmmm
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:52 pm
by error1
oh yeah it might be seth only, he was the only one I tried it on.
djay vs crouching chun has
far hp, hp boom
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:23 pm
by error1
djay vs standing ( probably vs everyone, but tested vs rog because you don't need to worry about range with him )
cl.lp,cl.lk, far hp, late canceled hp boom
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:03 am
by error1
guile has
cl.mk, lp boom
the charging is really hard beacuse you don't want f or b mk, and it's super tight anyway
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:48 pm
by anotak
Thanks for these, I've forwarded them to zeipher since they happen to be with his characters.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:08 am
by error1
sim
d+lk, late cancel b+hp ( 1 hit ), yoga fire
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:07 am
by anotak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaJuxiHPxDg i made a thing with the system mechanics
error1 wrote:sim
d+lk, late cancel b+hp ( 1 hit ), yoga fire
thanks. hm that cancel existing is probably just not a good thing anyway, so i'm going to cut it. I think I've fixed the others that were my characters, there should be a new version up in the next few days depending on Zeipher.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:16 pm
by error1
guile can also do ( tested vs sakura )
cl.lp, cl.mk, cl.hp, lp boom, dash
I think you can add a mp in there to make the charging easier
I think he can do the same kind of thing with c.hk once you fix cl.mk
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:19 pm
by error1
lol
guile
cl.mp, cl.mk repeat
not really an infinite, but you might want to look at it
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:17 pm
by anotak
http://www.sf4remix.com/povertfest-2013-remix/
I believe everything should be fixed except maybe the guile one? not positive on zeipher's characters.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:12 pm
by error1
fei
far.mp, c.hp, hp focus repeat
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:31 pm
by error1
ryu tested vs seth, fuerte in the corner
cl.mk, f+mp
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:16 am
by error1
balrog
c.lp, c.mp, hp, lp dash feint, dash repeat
this one is hard just beacuse the charge times are strict
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:14 am
by anotak
error1 wrote:balrog
c.lp, c.mp, hp, lp dash feint, dash repeat
this one is hard just beacuse the charge times are strict
wow, I really didn't think it was possible to charge this in time, i'll have a second look
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:17 pm
by error1
yeah a human might not be able to charge that fast idk. Did you reduce the charge time from 55 frames? It seems like I am only charging 43 frames in the script
But my script isn't very optimized for charge times, I could probably late cancel the lp dash and get some more charge time
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:01 pm
by anotak
error1 wrote:yeah a human might not be able to charge that fast idk. Did you reduce the charge time from 55 frames? It seems like I am only charging 43 frames in the script
But my script isn't very optimized for charge times, I could probably late cancel the lp dash and get some more charge time
yeah it's 40. what character are you doing this on?
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unless i'm wrong this should be roughly it, but it doesn't seem to get in range to work. I'm not familiar with the program you are using, so i recreated it in automacro
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:47 pm
by error1
you are not dashing, you need the dash at the start to get close enough
it works vs everyone in the corner. Out of the corner it loops a few times, some characters it's enough to get to the corner.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:22 am
by anotak
error1 wrote:you are not dashing, you need the dash at the start to get close enough
it works vs everyone in the corner. Out of the corner it loops a few times, some characters it's enough to get to the corner.
ohhh you have a point
oh man if someone can do that by hand consistenly by hand i would be very impressed (although not surprised)
hmm, this is unfortunate, no matter what i do to fix this, i probably have to sacrifice some fun.
again, thanks very much for the help.
edit: maybe not so impressed, i just did 2 reps by hand, and i am pretty terrible at execution.
edit: oh perhaps it will be fine if i lower the hitstop on 5hp, because the hitstop is what allows you to charge in time in the first place
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:58 am
by error1
I'm not using the hitstop on 5hp for charging, I actually stop charging before I press hp
edit: it's pretty hard to nerph it with charge time just beacuse there is a lot of charge time I'm not using here, I'm wondering if you can making something weird happen if you try to dash after an lp feint
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:47 am
by error1
optimized for charging it looks roughly like this
about 1486ms or 89 frames
you would need to remove 49 frames of charge time to stop it from being tasable
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:51 am
by anotak
error1 wrote:optimized for charging it looks roughly like this
about 1486ms or 89 frames
you would need to remove 49 frames of charge time to stop it from being tasable
ouch hmm. I'll figure something out.
again, thanks for taking the time and effort to find this stuff.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:33 pm
by error1
I'm gonna make a combo video when I can't find a guile infinite
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:13 am
by Zeipher
I've left guile on the backburner while i've been focusing on other characters, only attempting to fix the obvious reported infs for him, mostly because I've got no good ideas that don't end up with his matchups getting really lopsided in his favor. I'll be doing some real work on guile, yang, cody and guy for the next version. You're doing more work and reporting than most of the playtesters we've had so far, so thank you.
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:02 pm
by error1
Yeah there is a thin line with guile between week and op. I was surprised you didn't do much with the glasses, it's the only thing besides super meter that lasts between rounds
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:24 am
by error1
cody
c.lp,c.mk,qcb+k
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:17 am
by error1
elf fuerte ( tested vs sagat )
qcb+lp, c.lp, c.lp
elf fuerte ( tested vs sagat )
qcb+lk, c.lp, c.hp
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:30 am
by error1
elf fuerte
c.lp,hp,qcb+k (hold), dash
it's a one framer you need to cancel the dash as late as possible for it to be an infinate
Re: SSF4 Remix (ae pc mod)
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:01 am
by Maj
If Guile's infinites practically require tool-assistance, what's the harm in letting them stay? He's always had infinites and redizzy loops like that, but they've never been practical so it hasn't been a problem.