Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

talk about how great training mode is
Buttermaker
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Buttermaker »

- Punish whiffs

- Punish activated V-Ism

- Corner escape


Combos:

- Jump in trade -> air recovery -> Super

- Kick style j.HK -> proxy cancel into Super

- And these
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Pokey86 »

Thanks, seems the level 1 version is the most useful
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Post by Buttermaker »

Correct, but level 2/3 can make sense because the damage of the first hit is higher (24/30/36).
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Pokey86 »

I see, can you still cancel the Level 2 in to a special? I'd imagine Lvl2 -> full Gekiro is possible?
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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The super isn't cancelable. Are you talking about "Kick style j.HK -> proxy cancel into Super"?
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Post by Pokey86 »

Level 2 supers are cancellable in to Specials right? (Like Kens level 2 Shoryu-Reppa -> Roll -> HP SRK)

I'd have expected maybe you could do the level 2 version & immediately cancel that when you land in to Gekiro to hit the juggled opponent.

Honestly, i don't really know what a "proxy-cancel" is
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Buttermaker »

Pokey86 wrote:Level 2 supers are cancellable in to Specials right?
No.

proxy-cancel
Kick style j.HK -> Super works by canceling the startup frames of the second hit of j.HK into the Super. In this combo, c.HP is chained into s.HK and s.HK's startup frames get canceled into the Super.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Pokey86 »

They're not? damn i have to get my old SFA3 out now

EDIT - got confused, It was C-Groove in Cap Vs SNK 2 that had special cancellable level 2 supers. though i'm sure i remember doing an air tatsu directly after a shinryuken.

I'm shocked, i played that game casually with friends for at least a year &, yeah i was only 10, didn't know you could juggle opponents, hell, some are blatant, you can do 4 straight shooukens with Sakura.

I'd be expected for someone that age i guess, but i played SFEX2 at the same time & was trial'ing juggles all day.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Buttermaker »

Most blatant juggles are useless because of air recoveries.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by HarlequinRogue »

Anyone know much about SFA3 for PSP? Is much different from SFA3?
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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Isn't the PSP one the double upper version, with characters like Yun, Ingrid and Maki? Is that available anywhere other than PSP btw?
Maybe Doopliss isn't kicking ass, but he's taking names.

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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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PSP version is a modified version of a modified version of...SFA3 "upper," which was when they re-launched the arcade game on NAOMI hardware (same as CvS series) with all the console versions' content put in.
If you have the SFA Anthology, you can try the "Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper" mode in PS2, it'll have some of the same changes.

So it's like...

-SFA3 Arcade, (CPSII)
[consoles PS1, DC, Saturn]
-SFA3 Upper Arcade, (NAOMI)
[consoles GBA, PSP, PS2 as part of SFA anthology]

The mainstream/competitive scene didn't really touch the Upper/MAX stuff.
Easy way for me to tell apart SFA3 Upper vs SFA3 Proper footage is the lifebars. The colors are weird and the health drains red, instead of a darker shade of red/blue/green

Check out this wikipedia section for a starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fig ... 3#Versions
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by Buttermaker »

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... ifferences

The GBA version has one-button throws.

The big changes in Upper are the removal of crouch canceling and whiffed throws not building meter.

Doopliss: Eagle, Maki and Yun are in the GBA version.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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Buttermaker wrote:http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... ifferences

The GBA version has one-button throws.

The big changes in Upper are the removal of crouch canceling and whiffed throws not building meter.

Doopliss: Eagle, Maki and Yun are in the GBA version.
Really? I should give that one a shot then. Four buttons though...
Maybe Doopliss isn't kicking ass, but he's taking names.

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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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They need to be unlocked, but there's a cheat.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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super turbo revival on gba was pretty good. had that no-charge-required easy mode, which Maj used in his Guile video.

....so is the gba a3 any good?
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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Yeah, it's decent. The four button issue can be avoided with an emulator, although you might as well just use the PSP version.
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by HarlequinRogue »

Did anyone make any content for sfa3 max?

I played that game a fair bit, but was just really mucking around.
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TS made this:

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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by HarlequinRogue »

Oh that also reminds me. In PSP version you can also macro special moves to buttons, so you can do no-charge flash kick for example. But I don't anyone really wants to dig out SFA3 to try that out. Also, just for interest, when was OTG grabs taken out of the alpha series?
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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OTGs were never removed (if that's what you mean).
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by HarlequinRogue »

Buttermaker wrote:OTGs were never removed (if that's what you mean).
I remember trying OTG V-ism grabs and that didn't work (PSP version)
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

Post by HarlequinRogue »

Ok, I assume I am just bad at the game.

Do you still play? Is that a fresh recording?
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Re: Got any Questions about SFA, A2, Z2A, A3, A3U, or HSFA?

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I only checked out the PSP version after it was mentioned here. The recording is new.
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