Doopliss' SFIV Trial Guide

[Doopliss]

v.1.00 is complete, including descriptions of every character's Trials.

I have been working on this thing since February, and now I'm finally done with the basic thing. If you want to give me feedback, you can find what kind of feedback I want below. I suggest you read the trials backwards, to see if I get less and less explaining, because it feels like I did.

To do list:
1: Add descriptions to every hard trial (and expanded normal trial) on how useful Turbo, the Pause Trick and Plinking are and for what solution they work the best, with a "X out of 5" ranking and a small description if necessary.

2: Fix the headlines for everything so that it gets the correct size (Character headlines like "Ryu:" and "Ken:" will be size 16, "Normal 1:" and "Hard 3" headlines will be size 14) And get a proper Table of Contents.

3: Grammar-check, which will require the help from 1-3 people here with english as their main language.

4: Upload videos to the SFIVTrialGuide account for most of the alternative solutions and other stuff, and put links to them in the guide.

5: Spread the word.

6: SSFIV Trial Guide?

Requested Feedback:
Any other methods than Plinking, turbo and the pause trick that needs to be added do every trial? MAIN QUESTION

Any good alternate solutions I've forgot (Especially ones that would work well with the pause trick, plinking or turbo, but not ptherwise)? Any "common mistakes"? Note that with "common mistakes", I do not count stuff that applies to everything, like "Why did Dan block my move? Because you timed it wrong".

Any headlines that needs to be added? I want my guide to contain all the information you need to understand it.

Did I forget to explain some things in later character's trials that I did in the earlier ones?

How to publish the final product? ".pdf"? ".Doc"? Any other ideas?

Any trial or concept that needs to be explained further?

Anything else that comes to mind?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Doopliss]

Man I'm stupid, move this to "Resources and Guides", please... XD

[Rufus]

I'll try to go through it later. At 100 pages, it's a book.

Plaintext or HTML are good choices for formatting stuff these days unless you're set on having images.

[Doopliss]

I'll try to go through it later. At 100 pages, it's a book.

Plaintext or HTML are good choices for formatting stuff these days unless you're set on having images.

Well, I have a few images... Also URLs in text.

[Pokey86]

I had a look at some of the tougher ones... nice ideas... However you made no mention of cancelling to HP hands & then linking to standing MK to Super. Which i always found very easy.


That's how i did it, i know it's not the be all & end all, however it's probabaly worth mentioning as an alternate.

[Doopliss]

Forgot it was possible, I'll give it a shot (I just thought it worked with the EX hands for some reason). HP/HK mash moves are generally hard to do on a 360 controller though.

[Pokey86]

Didn't know it was possible, I'll give it a shot.

You didn't know Gens standing MK linked after a HP hands?


... Every decent Gen combo every concieved uses this

Doesn't work in super of course, however it does work with EX hands.

[Doopliss]

read my edit >: And I never play with Gen, and I cannot, for the life of me cancel s.MP and link it at the same time. The link is hard to do as it is already. I just don't get it.

EDIT: Seriously, I land HK Gekiro like 99% of the time now, it's insane. I'm starting to get the hang of this HP hands cancel as well. If I can't make it accessible to the average player, it feels kind of like a lost cause. I will still include it though, because if you have turbo, this is VERY usable.

EDIT2: Looks like the best way to do s.MP xx HP hands is to press: (With the button settings in my guide on a 360 controller): Y,X,Y,X,LB, a.k.a MP, LP, MP, LP, HP. The thumb waddling over the two buttons.

EDIT3: THE PAUSE TRICK! Of COURSE! I jsut tried it, and it worked perfectly to do the combo up until the s.MP, pause to see if it connected, then pause buffer the HP hands, then link and continue the combo manually after it connects.

[Pokey86]

read my edit >: And I never play with Gen, and I cannot, for the life of me cancel s.MP and link it at the same time. The link is hard to do as it is already. I just don't get it.

EDIT: Seriously, I land HK Gekiro like 99% of the time now, it's insane. I'm starting to get the hang of this HP hands cancel as well. If I can't make it accessible to the average player, it feels kind of like a lost cause. I will still include it though, because if you have turbo, this is VERY usable.

But i did this without turbo & below avarage, in the days i generally sucked... (I mean i still do suck, but you know what i mean) the way i worked it was

HK
HK
Double tap Cr.LP
Double tap MP
Double tap HP
QCF MK QCF HP
Gekiro.

That said, everyone has there own tools to deal with certain things... PEople always mentioned to me how KEns HArd Trial 5 was easier because you could link HP SRK after the Crouch MP buti just found it harder than HT4

[Maj]

I'll try to go through it later. At 100 pages, it's a book.

Wow, you weren't kidding. 104 pages! That's insane.

Guile section looks good though. Except this is listed as the alternate Flash Kick xx super command:

"Charge DB, Spin the stick to DF, UF+K, UB, DB, DF, UF+K"

I think it's much easier to go straight from DB to UF, like this:

charge DB, UF+K, spin through F, DF, D, DB, UB+K

[Pokey86]

I'll try to go through it later. At 100 pages, it's a book.

Wow, you weren't kidding. 104 pages! That's insane.

Guile section looks good though. Except this is listed as the alternate Flash Kick xx super command:

"Charge DB, Spin the stick to DF, UF+K, UB, DB, DF, UF+K"

I think it's much easier to go straight from DB to UF, like this:

charge DB, UF+K, spin through F, DF, D, DB, UB+K

Yeah, i did that with Guiles Flash kick, though it's a pain in the ass on pad either way

[Doopliss]

HK
HK
Double tap Cr.LP
Double tap MP
Double tap HP
QCF MK QCF HP
Gekiro.

That said, everyone has there own tools to deal with certain things... PEople always mentioned to me how KEns HArd Trial 5 was easier because you could link HP SRK after the Crouch MP buti just found it harder than HT4

Well, I have figured out three different ways to do the combo you mentioned now, so I'll add it Personally I lose the timing for the s.MP completely if I tap LP more than once. Anyhow, anyone can probably do this now using the pause trick thanks to you

Guile section looks good though. Except this is listed as the alternate Flash Kick xx super command:

"Charge DB, Spin the stick to DF, UF+K, UB, DB, DF, UF+K"

I think it's much easier to go straight from DB to UF, like this:

charge DB, UF+K, spin through F, DF, D, DB, UB+K

What I meant is that you simply spin the stick very fast 540 degrees, it's really simple and effective once you get the hang of it. I can add your's too though.

[Pokey86]

Ah, if you are still adding things...

I found the easiest way to do Sakuras

JumpHP
Crouch LK
Crouch LK
EX Shouken

was to simply add a punch between the LK's... that gives you an easy 4 frame cancel on the second LK as opposes to the 1frame LK -> LK

[Doopliss]

You mean:

2: "j.HP -> c.LK xx s.LP -> c.LK xx DP+PP"

?

If so, that's already in there

[Maj]

What I meant is that you simply spin the stick very fast 540 degrees, it's really simple and effective once you get the hang of it. I can add your's too though.

Yeah but mine (not really mine, it's pretty much universal among Guile players) is a straight diagonal line followed by 315 degree spin. And FK super happens to be one of the few things i like doing better on pad than on a stick.

[Doopliss]

As I said, I'll put yours in there too. Like to give people options.

[Doopliss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC94g0zXxjw

Here's me using the pause trick to beat Gen Hard 5. Quite easy using this actually, as long as you can do the full HK Gekiro...

[Dammit]

I still think you should put this on the SRK wiki. It's more visible and you can more easily put in screenshots and video links. It doesn't seem like anyone messes with other people's stuff there either.

[Doopliss]

"ell, it's not complete yet. For the moment I've just posted it where people need it the most: xbox360achievements and ps3trophies.

[Doopliss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfARqSeyEYs

A C.Viper solution video. I think it's quite hilarious that I found such simple solutions to Hard 2 and 3, who normally are seen as quite hard and frustrating.

[Pokey86]

i can't remember for SFIV, but for SSFIV Trial 23 i link to Crouch MP to full circle Ultra for Viper.

So it would be

Jump HK
Stand LK
Stand LP
Stand LK
Crouch MP
Ultra (HJC)

Pretty sure thats how i did it.

[Doopliss]

It's trial 22. I also added c.MP to complete it the first time. But frankly, this is a lot easier. The actual solution in Vanilla SFIV is also easier imo XD