SF4 Combo Engine Investigation

[error1]

another chun li combo
http://www.filefront.com/16060769/chunli47.mkv
thinking about putting a quick video together begging capcom to make ssf4 for the pc

[CPS2]

That was awesome

[Doopliss]

That was quite ridiculous. In a good way.

[Smileymike101]

Oh god, is SSF4 really coming to PCs?On eventhubs it says so.

[onReload]

Oh god, is SSF4 really coming to PCs?On eventhubs it says so.

On eventhubs it says so.

eventhubs says

eventhubs

[Smileymike101]

Well they have been right about the SSF4 rumor list, and also on those marketing pics it says PS3 XBOX 360 Windows live.I hope it's false though.

[onReload]

Someone already pointed out that the GFWL thing was only on a fan-drawn promo ad (a fan who expected a PC version), they didn't even use it in their recent (hideous) TV ad.

[onReload]

another chun li combo
http://www.filefront.com/16060769/chunli47.mkv
thinking about putting a quick video together begging capcom to make ssf4 for the pc

yes, i really dig the meaty HK Spinning Bird crossup.

[error1]

it's a mk but thanks
There have been rumors about sf4 pc but nothing official and sven has said they're not working on it right now I think
I guess I'll do a transcript on that chun combo, I'll need it at some point
nj.fp (300 stun and only counts as one move, crazy), cl hp -> hp fireball, C.hp -> hp fireball, Walk forward meaty s.lp, c.hk. I start a mk sbk as soon as possible and it just happens to be quick enough to make it meaty, c.lp -> lk legs->fadc, cl. mp-> lk legs, walk foward hk -> hk legs -> fadc, c.lk-> c.lp->meaty c.lp, ultra

[Smileymike101]

Man, chun is so crazy.3 infinites, frame advantage on fireball.300 stun on one normal, attack that hit meaty at will.7 frame normal which moves you forward.Crazy.

[onReload]

Was thinking of capturing random stuff and uploading it but I'm sure some of you might know these:

-Chun-Li: [corner] Meaty EX Hyakuretsukyaku, EX Hyakuretsukyaku, EX Hyakuretsukyaku, Ultra. It's pretty simple juggle fun, and it hurts my hand. A lot. If you want to make it really stylish, you can do some of it midscreen, or use FADC with two EX Hyakuretsukyaku into Ultra (pushing the enemy towards the corner, of course). Is it possible to get four EX Hyakuretsukyakus?

-Sagat: Counterhit LP Tiger Uppercut, (juggle, no cancel) to LK Tiger Genocide. Don't think anything else works besides the light super.

-Ken: LP Shoryuken, FADC, EX Hadouken, FADC, Ultra. Yes, it's overmeter as hell. Even more so if you insert EX Shoryuken for Ultra.

...and, here's something weird: vs. Rose (only char. I tried it on), from fullscreen, HK Tiger Genocide, with Counterhit on. It doesn't knock down - same circumstances with CH off, it lifts her up like normal. What gives?

[Smileymike101]

CH Super from full screen or ultra from max range will not knock down against any char.I tried something like fireball fadc ultra, and it was CH so didn't knock down, but tiger destruction has too much recovery so i couldnt combo after.Of and after AA lp dp, any super combos, just not fully.And you can get ultra after AA HP DP.Also you can launch dhalsim so high with the ultra in the corner, that from the last uppercut, the first hit, the one that causes a lot of hit freeze wiffs.

[onReload]

CH Super from full screen or ultra from max range will not knock down against any char.I tried something like fireball fadc ultra, and it was CH so didn't knock down, but tiger destruction has too much recovery so i couldnt combo after.Of and after AA lp dp, any super combos, just not fully.And you can get ultra after AA HP DP.Also you can launch dhalsim so high with the ultra in the corner, that from the last uppercut, the first hit, the one that causes a lot of hit freeze wiffs.

Yeah, the initial hit of the last uppercut can whiff in a few situations. but as for the LP Tiger Uppercut, I don't mean AA, I mean ground-to-ground counterhit.

[Smileymike101]

I found a better/funnier way to do Seth's infinite headstomp jump thingie, and it not just full screen.Nah..It's 2 screens!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNfk7BbWj4

[Pokey86]

That's ace

[Doopliss]

lol

[Maj]

I found a better/funnier way to do Seth's infinite headstomp jump thingie, and it not just full screen.Nah..It's 2 screens!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNfk7BbWj4

Hahaha that's pretty awesome. Nice idea.

[error1]

a dhalsim combo I found doing the fireworks but just got around to recording it
http://www.filefront.com/16095579/simultra.mkv

[error1]

Been meaning to try this ever since I saw the tacv but never got around to it
http://www.filefront.com/16104617/3xultra.mkv
it's not obvious but it's 1 hit from the first one then 5+5+5=16

[Maj]

Haha awesome! I knew exactly what it was as soon as i saw the filename. Nice touch using two teleports too.

[Doopliss]

Add a yoga fire before the super (so it hits in the middle of the super) and post it on the fireworks challenge

[error1]

because of the way the last two ultra's hit you can't juggle afterwords. What I was going to do was juggle only 3 hits of the second ultra then teleport and super, having the super hold him in place as the ultra catches up. I got that to work but I was loosing a hit from the last ultra. Might be possible to turn punch through the second ultra then knock Balrog back into it to get a more delayed hit, It really sucks that you can only have two ultras on screen at once

[Doopliss]

Shouldn't you be able to simply do walk/dash forward, YF xx Super? JP-wise, it will work. Because super always put them in float juggle, so YF will hit after the first Super hit.

[Maj]

Yeah, you can see it in the combo i did against C.Viper. Should work if you do something faster than teleport, like maybe even LK/MK slide. Also you can definitely add a hit after the super; probably far s.HP judging from how high you launch Balrog.

Another thing i'd try is doing j.D+HP drill after you do the second ultra, because you can connect that after anti-air ultra at certain ranges in the corner, then the ultra continues hitting normally and you lose nothing since you wouldn't have gotten a free juggle out of it anyway.

[Doopliss]

Now that we're talking about Dhalsims ultra. It act's really weird when you hit someone in the air. you can do AA ultra -> Normal move, but only if you get one or two hits of the ultra. You can connect Yoga mummy after 3 hits of the ultra, as it has a juggle potential of 1.

[Maj]

Yeah it's really weird. I was getting that during testing too, cuz j.D+HP would connect later than it was supposed to. But we didn't understand juggle states very well back then so i didn't bother trying to understand it. It's worth taking a second look at it now though. Maybe the first couple of hits don't increment the juggle counter?

[Doopliss]

it's not like there's any other option.

[Maj]

Eh, you never know. That move could be unique in some way. Anyway has anyone tested to see if one-hit anti-air Yoga Catastrophe creates a juggle state or anything like that?

[Doopliss]

well, the first and second hit causes float knockdown, the third hit has JP 0, I guess hit 4 has JP 1 and hit 5 has JP 2. Sadly, Dhalsim has no moves with JP 3 or more without being infinite to test this.

[error1]

http://www.filefront.com/16106085/3xultra2.mkv
This attack could be the last
Thanks for the input, I think this ones better.
Dhalsim reminded me of neo a on that second ultra
I'm confident yoga mummy is out of the question here