Fighting Game News and Speculation 2010

[Smileymike101]

God of war CRAP?Kratos will sooooo kill you for this.

[Xenozip.]

intro/extended-trailerthing http://www.gamekult.com/video/9913563/

some footage http://www.meristation.com/v3/video_pla ... 3b6e9875ab

lol@gouken hat

[Maj]

omg the hat is pure unfiltered awesome!

I love how it fits so perfectly with his Hurricane Kick descending pose. Was that pure luck or were they planning on giving him a hat all along?

[Xenozip.]

Pure luck. His arms clip right through the hat during winpose.

[Doopliss]

Anyone noticed he said "Tatsumaki Gorasen" instead of "HEEEEUUEEH!" ?

[Xenozip.]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2198/33101963.png

Wowzers.

[onReload]

hahahaha awesome!

[Xenozip.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t9VmZpJxNE#t=2m08

Oh come on claw. Come on.

Sigh.. just pick red impact.

[onReload]

Well it could have been pretty situational, who knows. Counterhit vs. whatever Guy was doing wouldn't be that big of a deal, and it least it's some damage vs. what his regular sf4 ultra is.

[Xenozip.]

I wonder what Sagat's ex taunt does.

[Doopliss]

It buffs the next TU to 180 dmg, from 100.

[error1]

basically the same as sfz2a but for less meter and more damage. Why does Sagat get all his old alpha moves like fake kick and super taunt but Ken can't roll and Ryu can't fake hadouken

[Doopliss]

Those would be really powerful tools in SFIV imo.

[Xenozip.]

What would be really fucking good is Ryu's f+MK from A3, lol. Not that he needs that shit.

Also I guess I was overreacting to Kikkosho and such, it would appear that comboing into ultras scales the living fuck out of the damage now. Like c.lk into ex legs did more damage than the juggled kikkosho.

I believe some one also mentioned Ryu anti-air dp into ex hadou was nerfed/removed or something. I can't really tell what they did with Guile but he seems faster/stronger overall, but without any glaringly obvious changes.

Oh and the official name for his glasses taunt is SHADES OF GLORY
http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/5afa79a9 ... 1ca8ec.jpg <--

[onReload]

Someone mentioned that if you trade a Shoryu, you deal the same damage you would had you AA'd them, whereas in SF4, you'd get the ground-to-ground damage. maybe that's what you're talking about?

[Doopliss]

When you trade with SRK, you are already airborne, and therefore, is air reseted. Then you won't have time for ultra.

[onReload]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5QgYaGQjt4

Damn, seems like Flash Kick FADC Sunglasses won't be his best combo in SSF4.

Also, thank fucking god for an ARCADE RELEASE. I pray my local place is going to get a cab...I also pray it's not the H2H model only like SF4 was, 'cause that was probably a big detractor for the small arcades (having to buy two huge cabs).

[Mienaikage]

^ I don't understand why they made it so that only 5 hits of the SH connect. I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference in damage, but come on, the whole thing should have juggle potential, just like Ryu's does

[onReload]

I'm not sure either, though to be fair, Ryu's FADC combo will have changed radically in Super, too - but his execution will still be easier than Guile's, and damage may be higher than Guile's.

It's still over 300 dmg, which is nice...a lot easier to land than his U1.

[Maj]

Hm, honestly i'm a little relieved that it juggles at all. Five's better than nothing.

On the other hand, how many hits do you get from FK xx super FK? Knockdown plus four hits usually? That would only give you one hit of Sonic Hurricane afterwards. Eh, still more than his current ultra, right?

Whatever, i'll take it.

[onReload]

i want to find a guile combo that uses sunglasses taunt...as a buffer might be better, but i would take it mid-juggle any day. how awesome would that be?

[error1]

That would only give you one hit of Sonic Hurricane afterwards.

I have a feeling some of the hits in his super are free hits so I wouldn't be suprised if you got 2 or 3 hits of the ultra

[Mienaikage]

I'm hoping that U1 has at least some sort of stealth buff. Vega got a boost to his U1, surely Guile should get one too, otherwise he's just going to be left with 1 1/2 Ultras

I have a feeling some of the hits in his super are free hits so I wouldn't be suprised if you got 2 or 3 hits of the ultra

I'm going to do some more Guile experiments, be back soon.

EDIT: I don't think there are any free hits
Hopefully this has changed in Super.

[Smileymike101]

No, every hit of his super adds to the counter.Also, it seems that EVERY new fireball ultra has gotten the same "only 2 hits because it's not ryu" treatment.We have not yet seen sakura's juggle, only used on float state, but i'm sure it'l just do 4 hits out of 5.I mean:
Dan: 4-5(maybe even less)/6
Sagat: 6/8
Gouken's requires charge,and without its' 4-5/8
Guile: 5/6

But hoho, of fucking course ryu gets his metsu hadouken to have FUCKING 8 hits of juggle.I think it's the biggest juggle potential in the game, besides infinite.And it's the most damaging fireball ultra out of them all.What the F capcom?(Gouken's fully charged does 495, but not charged only like 300 so that doesnt count)
I mean really, sakura's does 320 damage, and it will most likely not hit all of the 5 hits in a juggle, but ryu's is 398 dmg and hits every hit.

Fairness, Capcom ain't know shit about it.

[Doopliss]

Last hit of EX SBK hase a JP of 9 :3

[Smileymike101]

I hate you for completely ruining my rant against Ryu and his amazing bull-shitiness.

Edit:Also, Chun's Ultra 2 seems to get only 16 hits in juggles after EX legs, out of 20.And it also is a very low damage ultra, in the 300-350 realm, and something like 280 in juggles.Fuck you Ryu.And Akuma with his Dark hadou bullshitiness.While we are at it, fuck Goutetsu too.

[onReload]

damn he just pulled a dude from the comics

[error1]

I'm kind of glad they didn't make all the ultra fireballs uber. One of my problems with sf3 is that most charactors had a super that was clearly better then the other ones. You'd be stupid if you used any of Chun's supers besides sa2 or Ken's sa3. SSF4 Sakura will have the choice of a low damage fireball ultra that's very easy to connect with or a more damaging low ultra that connects after a focus or ex tatsu. I think it does a good job of giving her more options without obsoleting her other ultra

[Xenozip.]

Well don't forget that for the longest time people did use to use Chun SA.1 in 3S because it linked off anything and it was really good anti-air. And people used Yun SA.1 and SA.2, not because no one knew Genei Jin combos, but everyone just thought his others were better and gave you more meter for EX too. Eventually we settle on what's best, but not right away. I mean we also didn't use V-ism in A3, and N-Groove use to be the shit in CvS2, also. So what we think we know now might not be the same in a few years.

[onReload]

I also like the idea of more options, even if I know (or think I know, as Xenozip points out) which one is better...When I use Chun in SF3, I use any of her 3 supers, just depending on what I feel like doing...same with Ken. They're still very strong characters...so I don't mind the idea of using a counter Ultra, just because it's fun and adds some variety...and if you are looking for "the best" option, who knows, maybe the seemingly-worse options will end up broken somehow...don't know 'til you try

also edit: there needs to be an archive of now-obsolete-commonly-thought-best tactics from fighting games. I love hearing this stuff 'cause I'm so new to the whole scene thing, so everything is already prepared to tell me which one to use where. I dig hearing about who used to be best in MvC2, or what people did in A3 before it broke in half